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a couple of other things going on. will hillary clinton trade the world stage for the big apple top job? or plus there is a lot of speculation about anna windpower vogue editor will bring a new sound to our diplomatic core. we'll be right back. commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? jennifer speaks truth to power. >>the bottom line is we need an amendment. >>now it's your turn. connect with "the war room" jennifer granholm. >>it's a call to arms. make your voice heard. >> jennifer: when it comes to secretary of state hillary clinton there is no shortage of speculation or what is next for her career. a lot of democrats are hoping to see her make a presidential run in 2016, but it seems new york mayor michael bloomberg has a different id

the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does not believe in unicorns, pink or otherwise, mr. grover norquist. grover, what a day to have you on the show. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. of course, you know, north korea and -- media announced they did find unicorns in north korea. >> we don't often take our cues from them. i am one that firmly believes in the existence of unicorns somewhere and hopefully maybe in this fiscal cliff deal. grover, the first question i have for you is this, your pledge, the pledge that many republicans have signed on to, opposes any and all efforts to increase marginal income tax rates and opposes any net reduction or elimination of deductions and credi

syria. hillary clinton had a statement out yesterday. she's in the czech republic, and she said this. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event there's credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. first of all, what do you think that means, specifically? and, and what should it mean? >> i think it means that it's a red line for americans and the world. if that were to happen then i would expect some form of very tough military response. >> which would be what? >> i think it would be unlikely to speculate and specify right now and that's why she's being cautious in what she said. but up to now, what the west has been doing is giving some political support to the syrian opposition, obviously trying to resolve the situation as far as is possible. it's not been possible so far. >> and every day 100 people die or more. >> there are a lot of people dying. now the death toll probably would be around 40,000

of to clinton era tax rates and the reagan tax rates -- why don't we just go back to the old way of doing things -- >> stephanie: exactly. >> caller: because the rich -- we had billionaires with all of those taxes -- >> stephanie: that's right. absolutely. charlie cristenson said that this morning. the fact that there is all this hysteria over oh no we might have to go to the low 30s percent range. [ screaming ] [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: all right. chris there is a lot of discussion tab who is flabbergasting who? >> yeah. >> stephanie: republicans are working to quiet rumblings, and may have a newly reported doomsday plan. give a little keep a lot. avoid blame for the fiscal cliff. good luck. the bill would go to the floor, the republicans would vote present, allowing democratic votes to carry it to passage, the bill would be send to the white house and then put into law. obama has been unequivocal over the fact that the top earners tax rate must return to the clinton era. he can introduce a tax plan that will accomplish all of his revenue

, that's something that will -- >> howard goes on and on. clinton tax rates on everybody. will it cause a problem? yeah, short recession, but we get defense cuts which republicans would never agree to otherwise, there are human service cut which is we won't like, but the least possible damage. and it's a serious down payment on the deficit. the wall street people ringing their hands are really full of it. i'm not sure what. but full of something because they're going to see a big drop on wall street but it will come roaring back because somebody has done something. so you have him and all their friends and the right and all their friends and the president who i don't think if he can ever get out of campaign mode. it's a full on campaign again. putting one party into -- >> you're right, the amt will hit more people in the middle class and raise their effective tax rate to a higher rate than they were today. and you won't -- >> you have obamacare 4% on everyone, too. >> if you lieu numerically, it doesn't make sense if one side says we're not going to race taxes on the middle class -- >>

republicans? joining us for a fair & balanced debate, simon rosenberg, a former clinton campaign adviser and president and founder of ndn, just for clarity, a democrat. and the former chairman of the republican party of virginia. kate, does the republican party mead to change its position on immigration? >> well, does it darn dash no it needs to actually star, it needs to talk bim congratulations. strstrategic decisions were made to stay away from the issues that affected these democrat i cans that the republicans did terrible with. the democrats define you on these positions, then as anti-immigration or as the president defined the republicans as the enemy of latino, he actually used that word. rips have to start being savvy and realize that their message is won't that truly does appeal to immigrants, the one of hope and opportunity. why do immigrants come to the united states? for freedom and prosperity. republicans have to start conveying they are the party of freedom and prosperity and start talking about legal immigration. look at these people around the world who have spent their l

president clinton was in office, he left this country in the black. the people have weighed in. they've indicated that we want to move forward, we want to put people to work but we want to do it in a fair method of doing it. and that is not cutting programs that impacts the working poor in this country. mr. garamendi: well, you're absolutely correct about that. the proposal to cut medicare benefits is a nonstarter. there are things that can be done in medicare to reduce the costs and much has already been done. i'd like to ask my colleague from the great state of michigan to join us, mr. curson is a new member, came in during a special election. welcome. delighted to have you join us. mr. curson: thank you. i agree wholeheartedly with what's been said so far and the testimony, what i really want to say -- into the mic. what i really want to say is medicare is run more efficiently than nearly any insurance company in the world. they devote less than 2% of its funding to administrative expenses, and you compare that to a private insurance company that costs up to 40% of premiums for in

. >> mark zandi said returning to clinton-era tax rates would hurt the economy but is necessary to get the deficit under control. his comments came at a forum and also bush administration lawrence lindsay and clinton white house chief of staff. >> thank you so much and thank you chairman bachus for turning us and turn it over to peter cook who will moderate our tax panel on tax reform. >> i got a feeling you have to head back to the hill. we hope to come up with some answers and ideas from this panel. we have -- we'll write them down. i'll hand them to your staffer. you hear the mission. we have to come up with some ideas that can pass congress and meet with everyone's approval, so no small task. there are some new faces at the table and again, we want to welcome all of you and go around the table and introduce at least our new faces. we have got the brookings institution who has done a lot on fiscal issues. we have the lindsay group, former economic adviser to president bush. welcome. we have the chairman for the center of american progress. former chief of staff of bill clinton. john

and look at bill clinton after the attacks on the u.s. embassies in africa on august 7th of 1998, it took a little more than two weeks for bill clinton to respond force knee by dropping bombs on the farm suit alplant in khartoum. i had other examples of rather quick, which isn't to say precipitous, rather quick responses in part to send aess message. it's very important for the families and everybody here in the united states to understand that justice has in fact been pursued and had and to send a message to the world, just as the president said, if you mess with the united states there are serious and potentially deadly consequences for doing so. bill: i just want to add this. about a month ago the deputy interior minister said the investigation was going well. about three weeks ago the ministry spokesman said the results would come soon. i put those in quotes because we are still waiting on that. steven hayes, thank you out of washington. martha: remember the homeless man whose picture went viral on the internet when a new york city policeman gave him a pair of socks and a pair of boot

overturned. it is very similar to what erskine bowles, the former clinton chief of staff, who was the co-leader of the simpson- bowles commission, separate from that commission, mr. bowles testified before the super committee last year and testified at that time. republicans say that their current model is modeled after that offer. the simpson-bowles model has gone on lot of talk in the last two years. it is proposed on democrats in these discussions. on the revenue side, but $800 billion that they are offering, that is the same of what speaker john vader, offered the president in their negotiations -- speaker john boehner offered the president in their negotiations in 2011. the white house has consistently signaled a loss of of weeks that they will not accept any deal that keeps tax rates for the wealthy. >> russell burma is a staff writer for the hill. thank you. >> thank you. >> and you can go to our website c-span.org to read the letter that the president wrote to house rubble can survey. journal" iston goura live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. the greatest threat to national and e

hillary clinton as she prepares to step down. michael bloomberg called clinton to encourage her to enter the 2013 race for new york mayor when his term end. "the new york times" made it clear that she had no interest in the job. if she, however, decides to change her mind, she has one hurdle she has to overcome. she has to be a resident of the city. she bought a home when sheep deep sided to run for senate. >> exactly. >> new york senate years ago. >> you would imagine hillary clinton is one of the superstars in politics, and she has certain star power. you would think if she comes back into politics at this point -- they say she is not -- she would want a national office compared to a big, big job like mayor of new york city. if she gets in the game, she's going for the top again. the white house, not here in new york. >> what is mayor bloomberg going to do, steps down december 31st of 2013. >> count his money, i guess. >>> speaking of money, mitt romney is making a career move of sorts. he's rejoining the board of directors for marriott hoe tels. romney held the post from 1993 to 2002.

against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in some other areas. clearly be done and we have the deniers of global warming, but we're reducing the amount of oil that we import. there is progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been, i think, retrogression in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century, with social security and medicare. before those two, we did not have the possibility for the average older person who wasn't wealthy to have a decent existence in retirement. we now have that. i'm sorry to see that pulled back. there's also an international event, for the first time, and i think we have to recognize this. from 1940 to 1990 we had very heavily armed, very bad people threatening our very existence as a society. even though we may have exaggerated that a little bit at the end. we don't have that anymore. we have murderous thugs and terrorists but they're not the nazis or communists. they don't threaten our very existence. we have an ability now, i believe, to reduce some of the resources we put into self-protection

. going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking about, and negotiations could continue. doing what i'm talking about does not violate what either side is fighting over. they both say this is something we want to do. why not make sure we do not have some last-minute failure at the end of december. guest: what gives you confidence that democrats would agree later on? guest: this is where i disagree with some of my colleagues. they seem to think the american people are leveraged, and this is the democrats leverage. our leverage is in the spending and entitlement issues. the president and his negotiators are smart and able people. they know the re

to try custer rebellion. secretary of state and hillary clinton says if he goes down the road there will be consequences. >> i will not telegraph any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the a cyber regime has resorted to using chemical weapons-- a shad reading.regime . we are certainly going to take action if that were to occur. >> u.s. officials say he could use shells that-this is 500 more times daily then sign not one drop in killing person in name matter of minutes. i am mary ellen hawkins reporting. >> will follow the latest in syrria will let you know if and when things escalate. will take a quick break we have a live look outside from one of creek. we are looking at the ride on 680. erica is reminding us that we do have showers in store for later today and tomorrow. keep that in mind as you are making plans. we'll be right back. welcome back the time is 4: 40. on your tuesday morning and warning from the center of disease control that is coming flu season to be a particularly bad one. kron 4 stand firm and has more. >> if you have not gotte

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